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What a an amazing decision.
What kind of place is this?
A war zone? The committee got it all wrong.
Sending the wrong message entirely.
This licence should have been revoked.
Truly amazing and incompetent.
I couldn't agree more, a pathetic decision. I'm not sure what more we could have done to prove the inappropriateness of this establishment. Haringey incompetence strikes again!
Not that surprising a decision despite its outrageousness! I have been to Haringey's licensing committee meeting re Earl Haig Hall and can only call it a sham. The committee head is incredibly rude, especially to residents and they have very little sympathy for anything in Crouch End, which they see as a peaceful area in comparison to the war zones of Tottenham and Wood Green! They also only do things by the letter of the law - an obnoxious lawyer is always present and they fail to see the bigger picture most of the time. And of course they are scared of doing anything that they think will impact business or the local economy. But we must fight on - my experiences only made me feel more strongly about fighting the licensing committee and their absurdity!
Wood Green is a war zone? Really? Outrageousness...
I completely agree with JC about the wrong message. Who is it wants to go to a pub with multiple bouncers and airport security measures. You don't have to get frisked by security to get into the 3 Compasses on Hornsey High Street. Its as though the licensing committee is giving the BG clientèle license to be undesirable Obviously any sane Crouch Ender will boycott the place.
And CCTV has always seemed to me to be a joke. I think the quality of the pictures is improving so that , after the event, it might be possible to identify miscreants, but how many inebriates stop to wonder about the consequences of their actions. The licensing conditions relate to the "prevention of crime" not for its digital recording so it can be posted on youtube later.
Monica is to be congratulated for sticking with this problem and having the determination actually to attend the meeting. I know why I did not attend the meeting - I live just far enough away not to be directly affected. It would have been nice for our councillor to be backed up.
And apart from the conditions listed here there are still the usual obligations on a landlord, not to let those who are already drunk into his pub, and not to serve those who become incapable whilst present on his premises.
Perhaps the licensing committee is only interpreting the law as it is written. I do know of cases in Haringey where a license has been withdrawn
"Who is it wants to go to a pub with multiple bouncers and airport security measures. You don't have to get frisked by security to get into the 3 Compasses on Hornsey High Street. Its as though the licensing committee is giving the BG clientèle license to be undesirable Obviously any sane Crouch Ender will boycott the place."
I am a Crouchender through and through (by adoption since I am French). I know of no-one who lives here who goes (or will go) to this venue. So the committee in effect acts without any consideration whatsoever for people of the area.
Kiss the Sky, The Kings Head, The Queens and others are very well run, attended by locals and hardly ever is there a problem.
Indeed, I would never go to a place where it is natural to be search, and/or be served alcohol in plastic on the premise that it makes the place "safer". Crouchenders are mostly peaceful people who know how to behave. I should know I live next to Kiss the Sky. We say no to such measures.
It is utterly wrong to have allowed this. If anything licensing time should be in line with either other bars, one o'clock am or pubs midnight.
I reckon a solid local petition would gather something in the region of 5000 signatories pretty quickly with the hope to make the committee reconsider, or at the very least, only allow the licence to run until 1.00 am no later.
To be continued.
Please count me in!
Completely agree that a meeting is a good idea. This will provide a focus for any further action. Discussion of next steps is also a good idea - if possible with a positive outlook working on the assumption that this can become a attractive venue if handled properly. I'm not sure a petition carries any weight with the licensing authority but documented breaches of the conditions will.
Is there a Neighbourhood Watch for the that area. I know that there was a recent meeting about aFairfield Road Neighbourhood Watch, though I don't know the outcome. firstname.lastname@example.org seesm to be the contact for this sort of thing. I will email her.